Thomas B. Marsh was another favored associate of the Prophet Joseph. Over this pulpit in the April 1984 general conference, President Hinckley reminded us that Brother Marsh was serving as the President of the Quorum of the Twelve when he chose to disregard the decisions of the First Presidency and other Church leaders in a dispute between his wife and another woman over some milk strippings.17
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
When, as did the prodigal son, he finally "came to himself,”18 he wrote to Heber C. Kimball, who had been his associate in the Quorum of the Twelve, stating:
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
“Having lost my wife three years since, I began to awake to a sense of my situation; … I know that I have sinned against Heaven and in thy sight and have rendered myself unworthy of your confidence; or of a place in the family of Heaven. … I deserve no place among you in the church even as the lowest member; but I cannot live long so without a reconciliation with the 12 and the Church whom I have injured." He then recited the typical lesson his years of rebellion had taught him: "The Lord could get along very well without me and He has lost nothing by my falling out of the ranks; But O what have I lost?! Riches, greater riches than all this world or many planets like this could afford." He pleaded with his brethren for comfort and peace and their smiles upon him.19
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
After being rebaptized, Thomas came to Salt Lake City, where he asked Brigham Young, the President of the Church, for forgiveness. He was invited by President Young to speak at a Sunday service where Thomas offered this advice to his listeners: "If there are any among this people who should ever apostatize and do as I have done, prepare your backs for a good whipping, if you are such as the Lord loves. But if you will take my advice, you will stand by the authorities.
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
When, as did the prodigal son, he finally "came to himself,”18 he wrote to Heber C. Kimball, who had been his associate in the Quorum of the Twelve, stating:
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
“Having lost my wife three years since, I began to awake to a sense of my situation; … I know that I have sinned against Heaven and in thy sight and have rendered myself unworthy of your confidence; or of a place in the family of Heaven. … I deserve no place among you in the church even as the lowest member; but I cannot live long so without a reconciliation with the 12 and the Church whom I have injured." He then recited the typical lesson his years of rebellion had taught him: "The Lord could get along very well without me and He has lost nothing by my falling out of the ranks; But O what have I lost?! Riches, greater riches than all this world or many planets like this could afford." He pleaded with his brethren for comfort and peace and their smiles upon him.19
President James E. Faust, The Prophetic Voice, Ensign (CR), May 1996, p.4
After being rebaptized, Thomas came to Salt Lake City, where he asked Brigham Young, the President of the Church, for forgiveness. He was invited by President Young to speak at a Sunday service where Thomas offered this advice to his listeners: "If there are any among this people who should ever apostatize and do as I have done, prepare your backs for a good whipping, if you are such as the Lord loves. But if you will take my advice, you will stand by the authorities.
"the wife of Thomas B. Marsh, who was then President of the Twelve Apostles, and Sister Harris concluded they would exchange milk, in order to make a little larger cheese than they otherwise could. To be sure to have justice done, it was agreed that they should not save the strippings (to themselves), but that the milk and strippings should all go together.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
Now for you who have never been around a cow, I should say that the strippings came at the end of the milking and were richer in cream.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Mrs. Harris, it appeared, was faithful to the agreement and carried to Mrs. Marsh the milk and strippings, but Mrs. Marsh, wishing to make some extra good cheese, saved a pint of strippings from each cow and sent Mrs. Harris the milk without the strippings.”
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
A quarrel arose, and the matter was referred to the home teachers. They found Mrs. Marsh guilty of failure to keep her agreement. She and her husband were upset and, "an appeal was taken from the teacher to the bishop, and a regular Church trial was had." President Marsh did not consider that the bishop had done him and his lady justice for they (that is, the bishop's court) decided that the strippings were wrongfully saved, and that the woman had violated her covenant.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Marsh immediately took an appeal to the High Council, who investigated the question with much patience, and," says George A. Smith, "I assure you they were a grave body. Marsh being extremely anxious to maintain the character of his wife, … made a desperate defence, but the High Council finally confirmed the bishop's decision.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Marsh, not being satisfied, took an appeal to the First Presidency of the Church, and Joseph and his counselors had to sit upon the case, and they approved the decision of the High Council.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“This little affair," Brother Smith continues, "kicked up a considerable breeze, and Thomas B. Marsh then declared that he would sustain the character of his wife even if he had to go to hell for it.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“The then President of the Twelve Apostles, the man who should have been the first to do justice and cause reparation to be made for wrong, committed by any member of the family, took that position, and what next? He went before a magistrate and swore that the 'Mormons' were hostile towards the state of Missouri.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
Now for you who have never been around a cow, I should say that the strippings came at the end of the milking and were richer in cream.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Mrs. Harris, it appeared, was faithful to the agreement and carried to Mrs. Marsh the milk and strippings, but Mrs. Marsh, wishing to make some extra good cheese, saved a pint of strippings from each cow and sent Mrs. Harris the milk without the strippings.”
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
A quarrel arose, and the matter was referred to the home teachers. They found Mrs. Marsh guilty of failure to keep her agreement. She and her husband were upset and, "an appeal was taken from the teacher to the bishop, and a regular Church trial was had." President Marsh did not consider that the bishop had done him and his lady justice for they (that is, the bishop's court) decided that the strippings were wrongfully saved, and that the woman had violated her covenant.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Marsh immediately took an appeal to the High Council, who investigated the question with much patience, and," says George A. Smith, "I assure you they were a grave body. Marsh being extremely anxious to maintain the character of his wife, … made a desperate defence, but the High Council finally confirmed the bishop's decision.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Marsh, not being satisfied, took an appeal to the First Presidency of the Church, and Joseph and his counselors had to sit upon the case, and they approved the decision of the High Council.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“This little affair," Brother Smith continues, "kicked up a considerable breeze, and Thomas B. Marsh then declared that he would sustain the character of his wife even if he had to go to hell for it.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“The then President of the Twelve Apostles, the man who should have been the first to do justice and cause reparation to be made for wrong, committed by any member of the family, took that position, and what next? He went before a magistrate and swore that the 'Mormons' were hostile towards the state of Missouri.
“If there are any among this people who should ever apostatize and do as I have done, prepare your backs for a good whipping, if you are such as the Lord loves. But if you will take my advice, you will stand by the authorities; but if you go away and the Lord loves you as much as he did me, he will whip you back again.
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Many have said to me," he continued, " 'How is it that a man like you, who understood so much of the revelations of God as recorded in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, should fall away?’ I told them not to feel too secure, but to take heed lest they also should fall; for I had no scruples in my mind as to the possibility of men falling away.”
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
He continued, "I can say, in reference to the Quorum of the Twelve, to which I belonged, that I did not consider myself a whit behind any of them, and I suppose that others had the same opinion; but, let no one feel too secure; for, before you think of it, your steps will slide. You will not then think nor feel for a moment as you did before you lost the Spirit of Christ; for when men apostatize, they are left to grovel in the dark."
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
“Many have said to me," he continued, " 'How is it that a man like you, who understood so much of the revelations of God as recorded in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, should fall away?’ I told them not to feel too secure, but to take heed lest they also should fall; for I had no scruples in my mind as to the possibility of men falling away.”
President Gordon B. Hinckley, Small Acts Lead to Great Consequences, Ensign (CR), May 1984, p.81
He continued, "I can say, in reference to the Quorum of the Twelve, to which I belonged, that I did not consider myself a whit behind any of them, and I suppose that others had the same opinion; but, let no one feel too secure; for, before you think of it, your steps will slide. You will not then think nor feel for a moment as you did before you lost the Spirit of Christ; for when men apostatize, they are left to grovel in the dark."
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